*headdesk*
DoA Debate Thread Format
OP: [Presents a question with a clear moral 'right' and 'wrong' answer.]
Side 1: [Morally sound answer]
Side 2: [Morally questionable answer]
Side 1: :(
Side 2: [Righteous justification]
Side 1: Dude, that’s just not cool.
Side 2: [Insert appropriate "It's hypothetical/just a doll/just the internet/fantasy/John Stamos/stickin' it to The Man" rebuttal]
Side 1: …wtf, ewww.
Side 2: DON’T JUDGE ME YOU NARROWMINDED DICKHEAD! You obviously just [select one: a) are a Volks elitist b) can't distinguish fantasy from reality c) are taking this too seriously d) are a Nazi]
Side 1: *hiss*
Side 2: OPPRESSSSHUNNNNNNN!!!!! LOVE ME FOR MY BAD BEHAVIOR!!
Random Person: I’m sure they didn’t mean it, you don’t have the right to judge them based on what they themselves have clearly admitted about their own character/interests/motives.
Side 2: Yeah, since you’re no better. I know you [are dishonest/are perverted/secretly think the same thing], at least I’m honest about it.
Side 1: *blank look* [Righteous indignation and defense of morals.]
((INSERT TOTALLY TANGENTAL CONVERSATION ABOUT LOOSELY RELATED SUBJECT SPURRED ON BY EITHER A POOR ANALOGY OR A REALLY BIZARRE COMMENT, USUALLY CITING WIKIPEDIA, MSN, OR AN EASILY GOOGLED STATUTE NUMBER.))
Rational People from Both Sides: …wtf?
Random Person: Um… getting back on topic sort of kind of, here is my vague opinion to try to dispell the crazy awkwardness and lingering WTF.
Side 2a: …I didn’t mean it anyway. I was [select one: just kidding/playing devil's advocate/really tired when I posted that.].
Side 2b: I’M A DEVIANT AND I LIKE IT THIS WAY DON’T JUDGE ME YOU NARROWMINDED PURITANICAL NUTJOBS. [Reprise of prior arguments and attempts to discredit opposing viewpoint.]
Side 1: ………freeeeeeeakshow….
Side 2: ….
Random Person: Here is another, rather ridiculous, angle to this question that makes Side 2 seem more ethical…
Side 2: Oh, yeah. YEAH! That!
Side 1: …no. [Reprise of moral background]
Side 2: [Reprise of prior justifications and attempts to discredit opposing viewpoint]
Side 1: [lather]
Side 2: [rinse]
Side 1: [repeat]
LOCK.
I know it’s probably like this on most internet forums, but it sure seems like the last few thread I’ve looked at in debate go like this. .. give or take an invocation of Godwin’s law.
However, it’s been great for letting people out themselves… as Zag pointed out, it’s definitely been very eye-opening. Disappointing. A couple years ago when this issue came up, pretty much everyone was opposed to keeping the mistake. Now not only do people say they’d keep the doll, but they get uppity when other people seem to be judgemental or unwilling to transact with them in the Marketplace. I tell you, dude, I definitely have a list going in my head of people who I have no desire to transact with from reading GD and Debate threads. People who condone knockoffs, scalping, stealing… heck, people who spit-wash their dolls faces.
Sure, maybe these people wouldn’t ever steal something in real life. But the thread is more illuminating in some ways than that – it shows who lacks common sense, who doesn’t understand the community’s “culture,” who flies off the handle when people disagree with them, who is seriously entitled, and who can go to great lengths justify bad behaviors.
Oh, btw, I’m referring to this thread.
I didn’t post a single daisy. Which isn’t to say that there wasn’t one like this burning in the back of my brain.



